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For All 1985-88
Thunderbirds
Special thanks to Eric of
Eric's Cool Cats and
Lee, also
Pete from NATO and the
NATO message board
for some of the information below.
DON'T LET THIS HAPPEN TO
YOU!!!!

(All apologies to Lee)
Probably the number one most dreaded task that people
fear on these cars is the eventual need to replace the
heater core. You can almost bet that on one of the coldest
days of the year, your core will die and leave you without
heat. Well, I'm here to dispel some rumors---this isn't that
bad of a job at all. If you've got an enclosed area in which
to work, some basic tools, and a few hours, you can do this
yourself very easily. The advantage is that you'll be saving
hundreds of dollars doing this yourself vs. having a shop do
it for you. An average heater core change is $300-500 at a
shop. Now if I told you that it can be done yourself for
about $60 US and a few hours of your time, wouldn't you
rather do that and save the money? Alrighty then, read on.
The heater core is essentially a small radiator that is
tucked inside a plastic box behind your dashboard. Its main
job is to allow coolant to flow through once the thermostat
has opened. This brings in heat, and then you can run your
car's heating system and fan to warm up the interior. Now
this means that you have coolant passing through the
firewall and into that box. If you haven't noticed by now,
the firewall is just a barrier between you and what goes on
in the engine compartment. Antifreeze is the only liquid
that's allowed (by federal law) to pass through the firewall
and into the passenger cabin, since it's not flammable. By
introducing coolant into the cabin there is potential for a
real mess. So be warned now that this is a slimy job. Hey,
you want to save money, right?
Symptoms Of Heater Core Failure
How do you know if your heater core is bad? Here are a
few clues:
- Your radiator is full of fluid, the
thermostat works fine, but you still have no heat.
- You find a puddle of antifreeze on the
passenger side footwell inside the car.
- You smell antifreeze when you run the
heater or defroster.
- You see puffs of smoke coming out of the
defroster or vent ducts.
- Your windshield fogs up during or after
you run the heater/defroster.
A way to double check this is to get the car warm, and
touch both small hoses that go from the engine block to the
heater core. If one hose is cold, the other warm, you've
probably got yourself a dead core. You can always have your
coolant system flushed and hope that it clears up the
problem, but if it doesn't, it's core replacement time for
sure.
Parts Acquisition
Now that you've determined that the heater core itself is
bad, you have to get yourself a new one. And let me tell
you, no matter what kind of deal you can get at the parts
store, it is well worth the money to buy an original Ford
heater core. It's definitely the best built core on the
market, and will far outlast aftermarket ones. I've had
people tell me that their store-bought core lasted a winter
or two, and that's it. Sure, it's going to be cheaper...but
do you really want to do this again in a few years? Just get
the Ford core and don't even think about another kind. By
the way, this same core was used in lots of Fox cars,
including the Mustang, so if you want to shop online at
Mustang parts places, feel free. Now you must get the core
to match what you have now. So if you have a/c (which almost
all of you do), then you have to get the core meant for a
car with a/c. Expect to pay around $60 US for the new core.
In addition to the new core, you might want to pick up
the hoses that go from the core to the engine block. They're
relatively inexpensive and if you've never changed them, now
is definitely the time to do that. And when the guy at the
parts store asks, "Do you want fries...er, I mean, do you
want new clamps with those hoses?", tell him, "Sure man,
knock yourself out." Now you officially have all your parts.
Time to tear into some stuff.
Removal Of The Old Core
Heh...yeah, this is the part where most people freak out.
No matter what you've heard, you DO NOT have to remove
the entire dash. Heck, most shop manuals recommend that
too---horse nuggets. The dash only needs to come out far
enough to get access to the heater core box. But that comes
later; you have to disconnect a few things first.
Engine Compartment
I'm going to assume here that you still have the
original-style R-12 refrigerant in your a/c system. If so
you MUST get it recovered at an official facility that can
do so. They'll can it for you to use later if you wish, or
you can convert over to R-134a. DO NOT let R-12 bleed
into the atmosphere! Now if you have R-134a already in
there, bleed the system dry. Or if your a/c doesn't work
(which I'm betting is the case for most of you out there),
do nothing. The trick is to do the heater core swap within a
day or two so you don't get a lot of atmosphere (and
therefore moisture) in the a/c lines. That will prematurely
rot out the system with rust.
You first have to remove the a/c accumulator on the
firewall from inside the engine compartment. Disconnect the
a/c lines going into the firewall (to Mr. Evaporator Core),
then remove the bolts from the strap holding the cannister
and remove the cannister. After it's off, remove the second
set of large nuts underneath that strap. These are the nuts
that physically hold the core box to the inside of the
firewall. You'll also have to remove the rubber coolant
lines going from the core to the block (you'll likely need
to drain your cooling system to do that). If the core hoses
are old and are giving you fits coming off the core, cut
them off lengthwise with a utility knife and peel 'em off.
Once you've done this much, your work outside the car is
pretty much done for the time being.
Passenger Compartment
You should NOT have to remove the following:
- Radio
- Instrument cluster
- Glove box (although it helps a little)
- Heater ducts
- Ash tray on non-console cars
You will have to remove this stuff though:
- Under-dash insulation (driver and
passenger side)
- Kick panels (driver and passenger side)
- Console (if equipped)
- Floor shifter and bezel (if equipped)
- Console bracket (see photo
here)
- System Sentry module, if equipped (see
photo
here)
Oh yeah, one more thing...these photos and descriptions
are intended for the majority 1985-88 Cougars and
Thunderbirds. They may or may not be exactly what's in your
car. For example, if you have automatic temperature control
(ATC) then you may have a different setup behind the dash
than a non-ATC car. Therefore these pictures and
descriptions obviously would be different than what's in
your car. And this process may or may not be similar for
1983-84 cars. I've tried very hard to be as accurate as
possible with this page, with a lot of help from others, but
keep in mind that these cars can differ from one another and
this isn't an exact science. If you feel that you have
something to contribute that would help others, feel free to
e-mail me.
Now what if I told you that there are only 7 bolts and
nuts holding your dash to the cowl? Trick is knowing where
they are. See
Figure A for line art; read below for photos and
in-depth detail. (Thanks to Frank for sharing the photos!) |